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    Even the Left is finally waking to its own Tyranny :

    | BobA | 20210224.1607 |

    Midterm goal :  Sovereign CoSy Webspaces
    a personal secure directory , including website w video , programmable by you & the CoSy community in CoSy the language

    Short term : Other heads into CoSy , a fresh & most powerful paradigm in personal computer interaction .
    A task to align those heads .


    #4th.CoSy #Top
    Continuing working to understand the structure and exception handling in Reva Forth .
    I think one Saturday afternoon working with someone who knows web interfacing , does it boil down to get and put
    thru a socket ?  ,  I really want to get the interface off of IUP so I only have to deal with my own bugs , and am on the fast path to offering CoSy as a web service .


     
    Dyalog 2021 APL Problem Solving Competition questions posted :
    APL is the math everyday practical layer , much simplified & evolved thru K , of CoSy .
    Forth is the minimal vocabulary to create a dictionary capable of extending itself .

    SV-FIG is having their monthly meeting , now via Zoom ,  this Sat.Feb,20210227 . Theyall seems to have missed getting their schedule and connection info up on the web . Best I can suggest is email George Perry to get on their email list .

    They have recently been holding regular programming challenges , a couple of which I have participate in ( See 20210113 20201028 20200930 20200930 . )  The general approach at the near hardware level Forth is generally drastically different than at the dynamic lists of lists level of an APL . But I think Dyalog's problems should be of interest at the Forth level to see just what can and can't be done efficiently in terms of human level time and thought .



    Roger Hui , whose brilliance , particularly wrt group theory ,  I first became aware of on the IPSA  ` Zoo global email system around 1980 ,  was also Ken Iverson's chief implementor of the J language . Roger posted  on the Dyalog Forum an aberrant case where an empty array , that is , 0=⍴x ,  can still contain a massive object . I posted :

    Roger , your examples raised the question of whether non-empty emptys were possible in CoSy's simple lists of lists 3 item header | `( type count refCount )` | . Adding a type , anything's possible , however bad an idea .

    The only types now are
     `( sys Types )` Dv@ fmttbl
    (
     Type0   0   
     TypeC   1   
     TypeI   4   
     TypeFl  10 
     )
    And the type is also the item bytes , except for general Type0 which is list of pointers ( to lists ) .

    The equivalent to
    x←0⍴⊂1234567⍴'a'
    is
    : D> dup DMP ;

     ` a D>   1234567 _take cr D>   0 _take cr D>   >t0> cr DMP
    | /\ | sF6 to execute in raw Forth then F5 to insert | /\ |
    00812FC8 01 00 00 00  01 00 00 00  00 00 08 00  00 00 00 00 ................
    00812FD8 61 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  74 0F 94 04  C1 33 01 0C a.......t....3..

    06534020 01 00 00 00  87 D6 12 00  00 00 08 00  00 00 00 00 ................
    06534030 61 61 61 61  61 61 61 61  61 61 61 61  61 61 61 61 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

    00812FC8 01 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  00 00 08 00  00 00 00 00 ................
    00812FD8 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  74 0F 94 04  C1 33 01 0C ........t....3..

    00812FC8 01 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  01 00 08 00  00 00 00 00 ................
    00812FD8 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00  74 0F 94 04  C1 33 01 0C ........t....3..

    I've augmented the blogPosted example to dump at each step in the word by word execution .

    If the list is enclosed , the only thing nonzero is the item bit count which is vestigial and shares the 3rd header cell with refCount .
      ` a 1234567 _take enc 0 _take DMP
    00195750 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 .......... .....
    00195760 4B 08 AA 8D 00 00 00 00 65 14 3F EA 8E 25 00 00 K.......e.?..%..

    I wanted to check for certain that everything was being cleaned up properly so I executed with tracking of allocates & frees :
      AF1  ` a 1234567 _take  0 _take   AF0 
      AF> +-splt
    (
     9463552 50999328 9463552
     -9463552 -50999328
     )
    And with the enclose :
      AF1  ` a 1234567 _take enc  0 _take   AF0 
      AF> +-splt
    (
     13089800 51048480 13089800 12785368
    -13089800 -51048480 -13089800
     
     ) So it all looks clean .


    An example of everyday use of CoSy in simple business accounting :
    Email with Tony Poland who acts as sort of  property manager here at the CoSy ` ashram .
    I glad to see a decline in the power i have rearranged some breakers in the panel eliminated the barn and all lighting in my cabin, sabrinas, are LED  and im working towards all lights being converted this will help with energy cost and i have others ideas to cut it back we can talk about later
    When I was last in Walmart I looked for a florescent to fix the light that was put in but apparently already burned out under the counter .  I was startled to see they no longer carry any !  All LEDs . And an LED tube made to fit a 24" florescent fixture was about $7 while a 24" LED fixture like those outside are just 10$ .

    But only electric Heating can run into the $100s .  Here are current gas & electric :
     (' 20210315.0000 _f ` PSBT ` BH       147.27 _f        s" auto " ')
     (' 20210315.0000 _f ` PSBT ` IREA  f( 491.57 54.20 )f  s" acnts : 95555787 95555792 | 4100 65 kWh " ')

    | \/ | Electric , last vs current | \/ |
     f( 708.26 18.16 )f  f( 491.57 54.20 )f  -f |>| 216.6900 -36.0400
    we cant have the cost that high my goal is to eliminate waste as an electrician its a responsability you have to never waste electricity its your goal so we will find ways to keep those cost down.
    That's all executable CoSy , and I find ordinary people who know nothing beyond their smartphones can quickly understand the construction of the ledger entries :  `( timestamp from to amount why )`


    #PlanetaryTemperature #Top


    I'm continually arguing on various Facebook groups , particularly Climate Change Battle Royale for the most basic highschool and undergraduate classical quantitative physics to be experimentally demonstrated .

     I replied to an announcement email from David Hoyt at Heartland :

    As I  most recently posted in discussion at FB , Climate Change Battle Royale :
    Bob Armstrong
    Hand me a spectrum , like the atmosphere absorption spectrum as a list by wavelength , and I will make a vid of working thru the calculation .

    Bob Armstrong > David Littlejohn
    Still waiting for your alternative calculation . But QUANTITATIVE EXPERIMENT trumps all .
    I seriously propose an equation vs equation face off on the calculation of the mean temperature ( extra credit : a voxel map ) of a billiard ball under a sun lamp .
    Heartland absolutely needs to address the physics at this level . See : The Ritchie Prize

    See http://cosy.com/y21/Blog.html#20210222

    I press Heartland on this issue because they are in the best position to establish a rock solid agreed foundation of the most basic classical physics . It is pathetic but true that the typical " climate scientist " literally does not know how to calculate the temperature of a billiard ball under a sunlamp .
    And there is , in fact a large number of eminent voices even on the ` skeptic side who reject the universal tradeoff of gravitational and kinetic energy which creates the adiabatic ( ie: constant total energy ) pressure ( mass * temperature ) gradient demanded by Conservation of Energy .  And despite there being no testable quantitative equation for the trapping of a temperature gradient by a spectral effect -- because it's wrong .

    The only way this decades old destructive stalemate will be crush is thru the restoration of the most classical fundamental analytical experimentally demonstrated physic .   Feynman would agree .

    Gilles Bourgeois is one guy who gets it .


    Also :

    Discussion of the role of heat equivalent of water phase changes in temperature variation asymmetry .
    This is very clear in ice ages .  It is notable that temperature plunges down from its warm periods but never gets much warmer than now .  There's an obvious tipping point at 273.15 ( 0c ) , but none above .
    See additional accreted comments in http://cosy.com/y21/Blog.html .

    Any HONEST rational person seeing these 3 graphs should immediately understand the
    global statist demonization of the building block of life is a Leninist useful idiocy

    And this isn't even considering their failure at essentially high school level physics


    #misc #Top

     Tue.Feb,20210216
    Happened to have an empty Bic lighter . Wondered how much actual butane they contain .
      full 22g , empty 17g
    | --
    PS :

    Some path caused me to read Longfellow's The Building of the Ship . First poem I've read on an android -- and among longest poems I've ever read . Being able to highlight words and click to their definitions is a tool of thought I look forward to implementing in CoSy where learning the vocabulary is key . I think like central cities , centralized schools will never return to their former monopolies .

    NY art scene days friend Nicholas Bergery posted on FB that Lawrence Ferlinghetti died this week .
    I commented :
    Lost my copy of Coney Island of the Mind many decades ago .

    19190324 20210221 2_i Daysdif |>| 37225

    Not bad . I've got a ways to go .
    Was it COVID ?

    I remember also as a young teen having a book of his which contained a small lp of him reading his poems . And his lines ( as I remember ) :
    “Uplift bras lifting higher and higher
    Until they fly away
    And breasts fall , after all .”

    | --
     Scroll thru  http://cosy.com/y21/blog.csy if up in CoSy , or just the text :  http://cosy.com/y21/Blog.txt or , now ,  the HTML ,  http://cosy.com/y21/Blog.html for quite a bit more.




    `nuff for now . 
    Zoom by request

    BobA | 20210225.0227 | 20210225.0917 |




      I offer CoSy as a personal service , with a retainer/subscription . But , of course any serious potential client/partner must find CoSy understandable and usable as is . Thus a free intro Zoom to work thru any issues of getting CoSy up on your machine and assist you working thru some of the basics and discuss future priorities .

    On the other hand , If you just appreciate this blog , the PayPal button is below .
     

     
    Join the development discussion Inclusion or simply to support this most powerful language
    Access to Member simple open email list , cc not bcc . + Members archive directory

      CoSy is arguably the Simplest and Hardest programming language 
    Ask Me Anything

    Please post comments here on the Disqus below so they can be seen and discussed by all
    unless they are of a very private nature .

    Disqus allowed HTML
    comments powered by Disqus


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    I reserve the right to post all communications I receive or generate to CoSy website for further reflection .
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    BlogPost
    Wed.Feb,20210224


  • 4th.CoSy
  • Planetary Temperature
  • CoSy/Life ; CoSy/Liberty
  •  FaceBook  ; YouTube ;
  • Parler
  • © Bob Armstrong
    Forth is the Only Truly Open code . CoSy is the only APL in Open to the chip Forth
    For anything from the everyday business of life to modeling the planet
    Please let me know by return mail if you want to be removed from this list
    #4th.CoSy  #PlanetaryTemperature  #misc  #discussion < please comment here |
    email to be added





    Even the Left is finally waking to its own Tyranny :

    | BobA | 20210224.1607 |

    Midterm goal :  Sovereign CoSy Webspaces
    a personal secure directory , including website w video , programmable by you & the CoSy community in CoSy the language

    Short term : Other heads into CoSy , a fresh & most powerful paradigm in personal computer interaction .
    A task to align those heads .


    #4th.CoSy #Top
    Continuing working to understand the structure and exception handling in Reva Forth .
    I think one Saturday afternoon working with someone who knows web interfacing , does it boil down to get and put
    thru a socket ?  ,  I really want to get the interface off of IUP so I only have to deal with my own bugs , and am on the fast path to offering CoSy as a web service .


     
    Dyalog 2021 APL Problem Solving Competition questions posted :
    APL is the math everyday practical layer , much simplified & evolved thru K , of CoSy .
    Forth is the minimal vocabulary to create a dictionary capable of extending itself .

    SV-FIG is having their monthly meeting , now via Zoom ,  this Sat.Feb,20210227 . Theyall seems to have missed getting their schedule and connection info up on the web . Best I can suggest is email George Perry to get on their email list .

    They have recently been holding regular programming challenges , a couple of which I have participate in ( See 20210113 20201028 20200930 20200930 . )  The general approach at the near hardware level Forth is generally drastically different than at the dynamic lists of lists level of an APL . But I think Dyalog's problems should be of interest at the Forth level to see just what can and can't be done efficiently in terms of human level time and thought .



    Roger Hui , whose brilliance , particularly wrt group theory ,  I first became aware of on the IPSA  ` Zoo global email system around 1980 ,  was also Ken Iverson's chief implementor of the J language . Roger posted  on the Dyalog Forum an aberrant case where an empty array , that is , 0=⍴x ,  can still contain a massive object . I posted :

    Roger , your examples raised the question of whether non-empty emptys were possible in CoSy's simple lists of lists 3 item header | `( type count refCount )` | . Adding a type , anything's possible , however bad an idea .

    The only types now are
     `( sys Types )` Dv@ fmttbl
    (
     Type0   0   
     TypeC   1   
     TypeI   4   
     TypeFl  10 
     )
    And the type is also the item bytes , except for general Type0 which is list of pointers ( to lists ) .

    The equivalent to
    x←0⍴⊂1234567⍴'a'
    is
    ` a 1234567 _take 0 _take dup DMP >t0> cr DMP

    | /\ | sF6 to execute in raw Forth then F5 to insert .
    001966A0 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    001966B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 63 14 3E ED 8E 25 00 10 ........c.>..%..

    001966A0 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 08 00 00 00 00 00 ................
    001966B0 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 63 14 3E ED 8E 25 00 10 ........c.>..%..

    The first Dump before and the second after the assignment to ' t0 .
    Note the only difference is the increment in refCount

    ( The second lines in the header dumps are irrelevant because the count is 0 . Generally those would be the start of data . )

    If the list is enclosed , the only thing nonzero is the item bit count which is vestigial and shares the 3rd header cell with refCount .
      ` a 1234567 _take enc 0 _take DMP
    00195750 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 20 00 00 00 00 00 .......... .....
    00195760 4B 08 AA 8D 00 00 00 00 65 14 3F EA 8E 25 00 00 K.......e.?..%..

    I wanted to check for certain that everything was being cleaned up properly so I executed with tracking of allocates & frees :
      AF1  ` a 1234567 _take  0 _take   AF0 
      AF> +-splt
    (
     9463552 50999328 9463552
     -9463552 -50999328
     )
    And with the enclose :
      AF1  ` a 1234567 _take enc  0 _take   AF0 
      AF> +-splt
    (
     13089800 51048480 13089800 12785368
    -13089800 -51048480 -13089800
     
     ) So it all looks clean .


    An example of everyday use of CoSy in simple business accounting :
    Email with Tony Poland who acts as sort of  property manager here at the CoSy ` ashram .
    I glad to see a decline in the power i have rearranged some breakers in the panel eliminated the barn and all lighting in my cabin, sabrinas, are LED  and im working towards all lights being converted this will help with energy cost and i have others ideas to cut it back we can talk about later
    When I was last in Walmart I looked for a florescent to fix the light that was put in but apparently already burned out under the counter .  I was startled to see they no longer carry any !  All LEDs . And an LED tube made to fit a 24" florescent fixture was about $7 while a 24" LED fixture like those outside are just 10$ .

    But only electric Heating can run into the $100s .  Here are current gas & electric :
     (' 20210315.0000 _f ` PSBT ` BH       147.27 _f        s" auto " ')
     (' 20210315.0000 _f ` PSBT ` IREA  f( 491.57 54.20 )f  s" acnts : 95555787 95555792 | 4100 65 kWh " ')

    | \/ | Electric , last vs current | \/ |
     f( 708.26 18.16 )f  f( 491.57 54.20 )f  -f |>| 216.6900 -36.0400
    we cant have the cost that high my goal is to eliminate waste as an electrician its a responsability you have to never waste electricity its your goal so we will find ways to keep those cost down.
    That's all executable CoSy , and I find ordinary people who know nothing beyond their smartphones can quickly understand the construction of the ledger entries :  `( timestamp from to amount why )`


    #PlanetaryTemperature #Top


    I'm continually arguing on various Facebook groups , particularly Climate Change Battle Royale for the most basic highschool and undergraduate classical quantitative physics to be experimentally demonstrated .

     I replied to an announcement email from David Hoyt at Heartland :

    As I  most recently posted in discussion at FB , Climate Change Battle Royale :
    Bob Armstrong
    Hand me a spectrum , like the atmosphere absorption spectrum as a list by wavelength , and I will make a vid of working thru the calculation .

    Bob Armstrong > David Littlejohn
    Still waiting for your alternative calculation . But QUANTITATIVE EXPERIMENT trumps all .
    I seriously propose an equation vs equation face off on the calculation of the mean temperature ( extra credit : a voxel map ) of a billiard ball under a sun lamp .
    Heartland absolutely needs to address the physics at this level . See : The Ritchie Prize

    See http://cosy.com/y21/Blog.html#20210222

    I press Heartland on this issue because they are in the best position to establish a rock solid agreed foundation of the most basic classical physics . It is pathetic but true that the typical " climate scientist " literally does not know how to calculate the temperature of a billiard ball under a sunlamp .
    And there is , in fact a large number of eminent voices even on the ` skeptic side who reject the universal tradeoff of gravitational and kinetic energy which creates the adiabatic ( ie: constant total energy ) pressure ( mass * temperature ) gradient demanded by Conservation of Energy .  And despite there being no testable quantitative equation for the trapping of a temperature gradient by a spectral effect -- because it's wrong .

    The only way this decades old destructive stalemate will be crush is thru the restoration of the most classical fundamental analytical experimentally demonstrated physic .   Feynman would agree .

    Gilles Bourgeois is one guy who gets it .


    Also :

    Discussion of the role of heat equivalent of water phase changes in temperature variation asymmetry .
    This is very clear in ice ages .  It is notable that temperature plunges down from its warm periods but never gets much warmer than now .  There's an obvious tipping point at 273.15 ( 0c ) , but none above .
    See additional accreted comments in http://cosy.com/y21/Blog.html .

    Any HONEST rational person seeing these 3 graphs should immediately understand the
    global statist demonization of the building block of life is a Leninist useful idiocy

    And this isn't even considering their failure at essentially high school level physics


    #misc #Top

     Tue.Feb,20210216
    Happened to have an empty Bic lighter . Wondered how much actual butane they contain .
      full 22g , empty 17g
    | --
    PS :

    Some path caused me to read Longfellow's The Building of the Ship . First poem I've read on an android -- and among longest poems I've ever read . Being able to highlight words and click to their definitions is a tool of thought I look forward to implementing in CoSy where learning the vocabulary is key . I think like central cities , centralized schools will never return to their former monopolies .

    NY art scene days friend Nicholas Bergery posted on FB that Lawrence Ferlinghetti died this week .
    I commented :
    Lost my copy of Coney Island of the Mind many decades ago .

    19190324 20210221 2_i Daysdif |>| 37225

    Not bad . I've got a ways to go .
    Was it COVID ?

    I remember also as a young teen having a book of his which contained a small lp of him reading his poems . And his lines ( as I remember ) :
    “Uplift bras lifting higher and higher
    Until they fly away
    And breasts fall , after all .”

    | --
     Scroll thru  http://cosy.com/y21/blog.csy if up in CoSy , or just the text :  http://cosy.com/y21/Blog.txt or , now ,  the HTML ,  http://cosy.com/y21/Blog.html for quite a bit more.




    `nuff for now . 
    Zoom by request

    BobA | 20210225.0227 | 20210225.0917 |




      I offer CoSy as a personal service , with a retainer/subscription . But , of course any serious potential client/partner must find CoSy understandable and usable as is . Thus a free intro Zoom to work thru any issues of getting CoSy up on your machine and assist you working thru some of the basics and discuss future priorities .

    On the other hand , If you just appreciate this blog , the PayPal button is below .
     

     
    Join the development discussion Inclusion or simply to support this most powerful language
    Access to Member simple open email list , cc not bcc . + Members archive directory

      CoSy is arguably the Simplest and Hardest programming language 
    Ask Me Anything

    Please post comments here on the Disqus below so they can be seen and discussed by all
    unless they are of a very private nature .

    Disqus allowed HTML
    comments powered by Disqus


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    Whole CoSy
    Locations of visitors to this
                                    page
    CoSy
    I reserve the right to post all communications I receive or generate to CoSy website for further reflection .
    Contact : Bob Armstrong ; About this page : Feedback ; 719-337-2733
    Coherent Systems / 28124 Highway 67 / Woodland Park , Colorado / 80863-9711 
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