Subject:
Re: TWTW Mar 15, 2025
From:
Bob Armstrong <bob@cosy.com>
Date:
2025-03-17, 10:56
To:
ken@haapala.com

On 2025-03-16 17:12, ken@haapala.com wrote:
TWTW begins with a brief discussion of the second law of thermodynamics because some scientists claim that the greenhouse effect violates it.

It Does !

No spectral filtering can create and sustain an energy , ie: temperature , gradient .

The reason and amount by which bottoms of atmospheres are hotter than their planet's radiative equilibrium , determined by its distance from the Sun and the correlation of its Schwarzchild spectrum ( color ) and that of the Sun's power spectrum , is the adiabatic tradeoff of gravitational , potential , and kinetic , thermal , energy keeping total energy constant as required by Conservation of Physics .

As I put it in a box at CoSy.com/#PlanetaryPhysics

  •   Particles moving "up" in a gravitational field slow down , ie: cool ;
  •   Those moving down speed up , ie: heat .
Newton's Law of Gravity which explains how much faster satellites go in lower orbit also explains how much faster molecules go at the bottoms of atmospheres and thus quantitatively explains the temperature profiles of all planets whatever their atmosphere including the ~ 33c warmer the bottom of our atmosphere is than our radiative balance with the Sun .

The GHG paradigm , excluding the Law of Gravity in violation even of conservation of energy , being false , has thus never presented a testable equation quantifying their asserted spectral "trapping" nor an experimental demonstration of it .
Roderic Graeff's experiment , https://tallbloke.files.wor... , detects the gravitational temperature gradient . While admittedly modest it appears well thought out and executed . And , of course , it makes sense . If there ever was a FRIN ( further research is needed ) question it's this -- to do it on a taller column . | Leif Asbrink diputes Graeff's calculations :. See Re: Particles moving "up" in a gravitational field | 20210505.1544 | 

This gradient , of course , extends to the center of massive bodies .

That this high school level physics is still at all in question shows the sorry level of understanding the most basic classical physics exhibited by both sides trapped w/i the GHG paradigm .

Bob A

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