============================: TUE.MAY,990511 :============================
18:30-21| 55 Broad .  Linux  Loki game
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Join us at the next LUNY meeting on 
        
Tuesday May 11th, 1999
        
for a demo of 
the Linux port of
        "Civilization: Call to Power" 
from Loki Entertainment Software
         
which begins shipping the week of May 4
        

The meeting will be held as usual on the 
4th floor of 55 Broad Street 
from 6:30 PM
        to 9:00 PM 
 

|18:42| Also NYLUV @ IBM : nxt mo - Beowolf clustering .  nylug.org 
 lsny @ IBM .  Bruce @ NYSIA.org . TekTrend Sig . Guy frm Atlanta Linux Expo .
 
Scott Draeker : Pres , Loki : Game : Civilization : |18:53| Linux no nonger
  just a server OS . 3 new game titles . "Drug dealers in Wash Sq always call
  me Sir" ( Aud O+ : thats cuz NYCers dont have manners . )
 Commercial Apps & Linux : 10M users WW now . They not selling SW any more
 than StarWars selling cellulose . Want to see G.Lucas`s 90 min w Camcording
 rather than just anyone`s .  W b doing 4-8 game conversions this yr .
 RedHat doubling every yr . 10M installed starting to  be real # . Mac ~ 25M
 Mac Imac got 700k in same time Linux 1M . Overseas : Germ , Swed , Russ , UK
  300k in Australia .
 GeorgeGilder said : new tek needs to be 10x better .
  Linux is replacing Windows . 10x better ? no .
  Why then ? lot of things - open source , freedom from MS .
 Must keep Linux  UltraAlive . Not just people who didn`t make it in Win .
  Tek vs mkt driven .
 E3 show . 1600 titles , 50 blockbusters . Same in Games . tot ~ 5B$ % yr .
 Tomb raider outgrossed movies out same wk .
 Lot of Dual Boot machines so can keep some Win game .
 Not doing any new , rewriting in Linux . does not take over your systems .
 Not just Intel , but powerPC & Alpha .  - not just simple recompile .
 Doing alpha because "that Linux way" - not for econ reasons .
 Doing card games , " Railroad Tycoon , 2nd century " . real time strategy
  games . doing 3d strategy game .
 Blizard(?) top dog on mkt @ > 600M$ rev .
 License from publisher for royalties .
?s : How far behind Win mkt ?  wk to cpl mo .
 Demographic assumption on gross units sold ? bulk age 18-35 , Linux similar .
 Porting SW - common code , sim engines ? yes have libraries - Direct media
  layer - std graphics . Releasing code for some utils today .
  Quake 3D engine . Multi-title deals .
 MultiPlayer ? when we get code , already have - we just take out Win stuff
  underneith .  Some we have to reverse .
 Not doing any Java - using whatever written in - C++ .
 Hardware mfgs know games drive HW . making Linux drivers .
 "Civ" on Win better program for feedback from Linux effort .

Interesting demographics in this room of  Front Edge  Software Tekys :
 | PROPOFTOT  8 23 3   |>| 0.24 0.68 0.09  | AfroMale CaucMale Female 

 Scott bkgrnd : Lawyer . 1st source code license - not releasing Civ source
  - but Libs of components . when you give code away - 10 min later someone
  comes bk w better idea .
 Competion ? right now none in Linux .
 Private ? yes . IPO ? no . We w never be 100M$ co .
 WIN Cos see selves as Win Cos . Outsource Linux conversion  to , eg ,  Loki
 Wine WIN emulator ? some lag . we like Linux native .
 .5M hits on website % mo . no need for print ads .
   Had PR on LA Times , WSJ , CNN ,
  Turn based game using symetric multiprocessor .
 Buy games ? we w do as many as possible .
 11 full timers .
 Lib C did not have proper threading support . w work on RedHat6 w GLC(?) 2.1
  300 betas to 52 countries . |19:39| huge beta . got great users .
  w bring kernel devel to game wrld .
 Cost ? same as Win version .
 Saw RedHat ShrinkWrap in stores . saw was going to be big .
 W be very prominent in BestBuy . Dell & IBM preinstalls -
 This w be 1st Linux Xmas .
 Online vs stores - orders of magnitude different  . stores is channel -
  Do on web only as service .
 Developer bkgrnd ? All Linux , not Win .
 Why Linux soo satisfying ? like religious conversion .
 Vs solaris , OS-2 ? neat - want to do as much as can for these people .
 Giving away copies : to those who have kids , what only line of Dumbo`s
  mother ?  aud :  get a job .  Wrong .
 Mulit person Web game ? WIN anti cheating code dif under Linux & Actus so
  not net compatable .
 Civ , The game : CityStates : Parameters : Gov control of eg : hrs of work ,
  military investment , wages . Science .
 Aud : corruption factor ? No but one EricRamond working in Libertaian factor
  . Every concept in Great Library . Cloning , genetics . Gov types .
 requires 400MB harddisk DB space !

Aud : Anyone . What original game of genre ?      Hamurabi  .

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