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19-2130/ Queens Libertarians @ Bohemian Hall ( 29-19 24 Av , Astoria )
Ralph Rubinek : Gun Rights and Liberty : History and Current Events
/19:21/ Kenny Kramer : Libertarian most in history : whole slate of liber Levers
which can be pulled . Have had International split on Brazil , Australia ,
Canada ... CoSyNotes unedited
- spreading word but not going to win . Given lots of exposure - NYT , Post .
Fist debate last night : 250k from 100 230 - got 20k . Mike Blumberg .
coverage mininimal CUNY : Green there - w American dream party ; freddy Roman
- poor ; mans allane king p condesension - see what I wil do
what will first do if elected - might get haircut .
communications directory
Next tactic - insist on debate - w why shutting up Kramer - ever penny of $20k
won't buy %4 page in NYT - poster nbds in week before election -
in mean time geurailla . press so jadded - Time out Mag doing piece .
Election eve Chili house - . try .
Reception to msg ? People agree . 60k mj arrests . Tom Layton splitting
w marihuana leaf logo - 18K votes . confroted p him w generalization .
Jeff : youth freedom - w responsibility .
in 72-3 Keith Stroop 200k gratn from Playboy - was their celeb spokesmen
conceptually , its stupid .
Aud : perso
Why insurance cos not for to reduce theft .
Fred Newton :
Crazy for putting people in prison for a flower .
/1939/ John Clifton : Court of appeals ruling that Right to bear arms
is an individual right . \
Ralph Rubinek : 3 districts - 3 interpetations .
Parents were concentration camp survivors . as Socialized , guns
outlawed 6 M Jews & 7 M others .
Military founded on ordinary citizens . Government subordinate to will
of people . LI #533 disarmed .
Gun control has produced its horrible consequence . Mother taught
60M civilians have died at hands of own governments shince WW2 .
Granparents all dragged a
- we looked for guns but we found more jews . Mother survived on
beauty , father had gun - shot nazi`s who came after them .
Civil disarmament . Mother at Mengigle .
Let Freedom Ring .
Jim Strathorn : Depresurization on planes ? consequenses not generally
catistrophic . need principled candidates .
Joe? : politi / was on conservative line . got .17 of vote w/o money .
Commissioner Kerict - .
police do not have legal responsibility to protect individuals .
As moral issue believe drugs wrong - deprofitze - would kill that
source of conflct .
Friend charged of capresious civil rights violation by Dinkins .
Got discreditation - "got heil Hitler"s from other Jews .
Asutralia & England crime out of control .
In England is actually against law to defend self .
Turn of century change in
Senate passed bill to allow pilot arming .
In other countries - when plane goes off radar , shot down .
danmible that this was allowed to happen .
1933 all over again .
Israel lived under terror since `48 - What Bill C did
profiling is reasonable cause .
Persuing complaint in Subsidiese housing . Special investigator
70 year old . didn't live in building - was visiting friend not
in .
Works for a state agency . Revolving door for young cops . getting
in trouble all the time . Can't help people .
Position victimless crimes ? agrees w Kramer .
FN : friend was body guard for Caroline McCarthey -- loved woman
Sympathy vote .
Avg cops attitude toward normal gun owners ? generally just a happy
you can take care of own ass .
FN : Indonesia has extremely strict gun laws - East Timor - Son
of head of state had gun anyway .
UN : only ones who own guns are those UN says can own guns .
Loves Israel - sometimes will even go against Israel for US .
Most police officer :
Left Republican for Conservative Party in Staten Island .
Learned Constitution from 2 foreigners - his parents .
John Clifton : GoA v NRA ? GoA keeps NRA in line .
Have ever arrested guy for gun in domestic - yes but
helped him get his permit back .
Frank Lautenberg ammendment : orders of protection - creates anger .
Safir , Hasidic Jews have guns . target were effectively carry .
Pemise target permits only good for home . /2046/
rubinek@juno.com
Travis Paul for Public Advocate : Do offer choice from government
advocates . GoA member . Sell WTC site to highest bidder . .
End drug war . improve race relations . free up officers -
?s : WTC elimiated nbd thru eminent domain .
Govnmt creates commissions to do things that would be unpopular .
BA : Rudy for PA chief .
JM : Why come to NYC from OR & WA ? always liked big city . place
immegrants came to be free .
growing from nothing in one year .
Send donations to higher profile races . collected ~ 4 - 5
No republican running against Dem Nancy Gutbaum .
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