Modified | DDT |>| FRI.NOV,971114,14:47-5 | | CoSy/Home ; CoSy/Current | © Coherent Systems Inc . |
August 17-20 - Toronto .
I Presented :
The Evolution of CoSy
and APL97
SURVIVORS PUB PARTY
See uploaded APL97/Images
============================: MON.AUG,970818 :============================ |9:4| |9:6| RichardProctor | Features : No ACM support / Low Cost / 3 day fmt Website/email Publicity . Emphasis on training / 1 Workshop lab / waterloo archives on CD . Vendor Hospitality Suites & shared suite . Msg board here . Attendee list via e-mail . survey to fill out . 2 recruiters - Reuters & RoyWillets Checkfree / Wed Evenin 'APL Survivors' RoySykes family sick . ~ here | P14 Wed 15:15-PhilBenkard AlanGraham Mon 18-1845 890 lines in self | Causway 1845-20| W2 ODCB w have less server . T1 Berneky - APEX compiler demo . |9:27| IanSharp IPSA . Early 60s - late 80s . 60 offices , timesharing net . . Sharp APL mainframe The IPSA Legacy . Soliton & customeers Deutche Bank . Reuters . consulting grps Insight Lingo SnakeI Braegen . ISA |9:30| Ian : ~ dyadic Iota - but pocket knife - simple fn - cut things - exhibit 1 | enhanced . - can , bottle openers - screwdriver - exhibit 2 | | w spoon & fn Implementers maintained upward compatability ., 1 10 1000 every added fn - reduce mkt by ö2 | Exibit 3 | ö 2 * 10 | Std practice - made #s to fit thesis | IBM : Solns for small planet - Pluto | | Television - enhanced . not 1 on 1 like web browsing | Ctr of home entertainment : Refrigerator door central display device . info - kids art . elememtary event driven garbage coln of dead info . stak on others windowd - Aud - yea but refrig doesnt crash | plasma flat screen on wall - Gaugin replaced by Barney @ flik of switch | But put on refrig - attach to internet - do remote updates No Keynote speach would be complete w/o mention of subject . Got involved in 66 `67 when roger moore got involved w Ken & Adin | got into enhancement pissing contest w STSC . Jim Brown & APL 2 made spoon & fork to make meal of it . Going back to original is very difficult . Thought enhancements obviated need for original smaller product . Humans slow to adapt to new tek | We have had email for 25 yrs | Parents didnt have foen til late in life - straighted hair befor answering . email still used by .05 of people | how sell APL when enhance so often that if look @ 3 wks late | is right for cutting edge tek ? |9:55| Jim Brown : not added spoon & fork - took blade for paper & butter and sharpend to cut cord & twine . Ian : & Sequoia trees . Were ~ sufficiently aware can create tek faster than people can absorb . Aud : ~ Education but seduction | AlanGraham : 1.5M lines of code in MS Word Bill seems to be wining w - o we can add that -- breaks multiple times ö wk . JimLucas : lot of people running 3.X - not JB but KI |14:10| - \/ - \/ - \/ - \/ - \/ - \/ - \/ - \/ - \/ - \/ - \/ - \/ - \/ - MortonKromberg : OpenDataBaseConnectivity . to SQL DBs . A;\\ SELECT cust , prod , quant FROM wehrer destination = 'uk ' ORDER ODBC - Ingresss interface,. > 100 ODP xoftware to choose | FisCal multidim spreadsheed ============================: TUE.AUG,970819 :============================ |9:1| Attenance > 260 | for sale : CD , T Shirts , IPSharp Video , P14 Wed 15:15 rm 201 PhilBenkard / Sesion lengths P 45 - T 1.5hr Dyadic tmro | EdShaw - MCI contract - ATT contract . |9:11| EricBaelen SS&C Chalke Actuarial PC software PTS 2000 JohnHeinmiller : ProfitTestSyst Security Software Consulting . Bloomfield CT SSNC $35M rev agr .3 ComledAssetMngtReportng&Acnting . Pricing actuaries - AssetLiabilityMngt . Bal sheet wind tunnel testing . Idea : ( w Shane since `84 ) modeling w acnting on it . 1st goal make something mktable : Pricing syst . Analytical software on | PTS - Profitable since 3rd Month . 2 month development investment - tribute to APL | 1st release $10k 27yr olds | over time - AvgSellPrice 100k by 89 , now > 200k for international corp modeling system . PTS set Standards - resume`s listing PTS experience . can simplify back office . enterprize wide backbone > $50M lifetime revs . > 140 US Ins Cos . Open APL code . users can add & mng own code . Interface : Vermont Views . Integrate specialty calculations form other languaes when necessary . Eric showd SoftMed Chartview 9 mo later in spring `96 bak in APL under windows . Support 4 Op Sys : DOS & WIN 3x 95 NT . elaborate stocastic process . paralel processing model . Pricing tool for intest sensitive prods . Now modeling equity mkts . Keeps getting bigger & bigger . Front panel to organize : Liabilities , assets , models - cash flow testing , Cap Mkts , projects - Option adjusted valuation of surplus , Multiple jobs . Building a model : Bringing actuaries , acountant , portfolio mngrs speaking same language | very simple model update - instantly does several people day job | Canadian Enterprise computing . Integration w CAMRA & Finesse & other systs Ntex CMOs , AndyDavidson - in C DLLs . Need to establish good working relationship between Client & Consultant . -- Dont overspecify design / use 80 hr rule / Insure consultants fave necessary knowledge / neet team , not individual for windows project . Dont overwork your APL resource . - graphics ChartFX - help files - ForHelp , Packaging - release notes - OuterBox Experience . Install Scripts . Install Shield . Sales & Mkting support to close next deal - less expensive people . Lessons : Constantly Communicate : Whats working , what needs to change 104 Cos paid . |9:58| APL is #1 language for actuaries .48 of actuaries know . OS-2 ? decreasing to 0 use vs Win32 . 4 mo conversion to Win APL+3 added functionality . Staff of 8 APLers internally working 60 hrs ö wk , + 2 frm APL2000 . Bloomberg uses AndyDavidson pre-payment model . Camra |10:7| |11:28| NIAL : # ... Blank line | SoftQuad HTML editor | |12:26| c> McVeigh`s Jimmy 124 Church 364-9698 | m w Donna . try 15:30 |14:7| Dyadic OLE : O of mag more complex than TCP/IP | 1st WS explorr . Properties list of objects . OLE server ids globally unique | Doc in MS Help files . OLEview browser frm MS website . 'DAO' •WC 'OLEClient' 'DAO.DBEngine.35' | created obj in WS . Method <--> Fn | Property <--> Variable ( may be obj ) 2 •NQ 'DAO' 'ShowHelp' | shows MS help )CS DAO | Change domain to DAO NmSpc Assumption that ref to obj is ptr to array | takes while to browse MS help to understand objs | All this specific to MS Access . Quicker but not as general as ODBC interface . | info found thru OLEView browsing . | this is easier & more reliable than DDE . |15:40| c> McVeigh`s 364-9698 c> PaulMcVeigh chef - sort of remembers me frm `93 ! w work it out . ShepardsPie , Salmon on Irish bread , Guines stew. run tab . |16:12| APL+Win EricLescasse •WI OO Programming . Real traditional Object like . built Qwi on •WI . with :case stmnts . Inheritence thru direct call of previous form . Delphi poster of heierarcy of classes . ? Problem ? : all defs in 1 big > 50 line fn w case stmnts . Qwi Class is 1 fn ( + parent classes ) - may get very big . but easily xportable 'ff' Qwi 'New' 'Form8 ' | msg sending creates instance ff of class Form8 ' super ' to reach previous class value . :caselist ' 19-1930| Boat Foot of yonge +/ 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 |>| 8 ============================: WED.AUG,970820 :============================ |8:1| |8:43| |9:3| TimoLaurmaa - Mil servc in Finland learn to shout - tital Web Browser asthe apl interface Undocumented - the presentation true . timo.laurma@bis.org webmaster for www.bis.org/ | Why do TCP/IP socket programming ? move data frm mainframe unix Wkstns . Tek has chngd prep of WorkShops . Cruse cut into prep time . AVOID building Web Server yourself - security & encription best left to MS Thanks to RichardProcter , AndreiKondrashev for inventing event driven socket programming | http://209.19.63.3 Color line frm Jim - 3 ruble | Dont built APL based Browser . is rediculous GETHOSTID to get IP from URL . #nnn for APL chars |10:42| |11:12| c> 364-9698 Jimmy Sr Paul . Shep pie , Salmon , got VISA # |11:21| |13:37| `98 Italy , `99 Scranton PA | new tek things ~ quite ready . NAMESPACES : > 3 yrs ago | WS mngt . can run independently . basis of OLE automation . GUI objects treated as Namespaces . Integral Grid obj . Call Excel < - > Dyalog | Client/Server Computing . Control structures & dynamic Fns - good performance . Dialog APL/M for unix | Runs APL/W wss & GUI | Support svcs Web based Unix X-term demo . |13:50| |13:50| John : DyadicSupportService subscription on web . Firewall to source file . like a time sharing svc used to be . costs them 2x QA internally , but immediate WW fixes . | For loops | For ( ( a b ) in ) ... | Unix & PC versons Common source . Base version . Patchs relative to that . |14:1| Adrian : Designer | ctof | form editor w local vars . Variable tracking of any changes | |1:4|