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APL97.Notes

APL97 August 17-20 - Toronto .
I Presented :
The Evolution of CoSy
and APL97 SURVIVORS PUB PARTY
See uploaded APL97/Images

UNEDITED

  ============================: MON.AUG,970818 :============================
|9:4| |9:6| RichardProctor | Features : No ACM support / Low Cost / 3 day fmt
 Website/email Publicity . Emphasis on training / 1 Workshop lab / waterloo
 archives on CD . Vendor Hospitality Suites & shared suite .
 Msg board here . Attendee list via e-mail . survey to fill out . 2
 recruiters - Reuters & RoyWillets Checkfree / Wed Evenin 'APL Survivors'
 RoySykes family sick . ~ here |  P14 Wed 15:15-PhilBenkard
 AlanGraham Mon 18-1845 890 lines in self | Causway 1845-20|
 W2 ODCB w have less server .
 T1 Berneky - APEX compiler demo .
|9:27| IanSharp IPSA
  . Early 60s - late 80s
  . 60 offices , timesharing net .
  . Sharp APL mainframe
 The IPSA Legacy
  . Soliton & customeers Deutche Bank
  . Reuters
  .  consulting grps  Insight Lingo SnakeI Braegen
  . ISA
|9:30| Ian : ~ dyadic Iota - but pocket knife - simple fn - cut things
 - exhibit 1 | enhanced . - can , bottle openers - screwdriver - exhibit 2 |
 | w spoon & fn   Implementers maintained upward compatability .,  1 10 1000
 every added fn - reduce mkt by ö2 | Exibit 3 | ö 2 * 10 | Std practice -
 made #s to fit thesis | IBM : Solns for small planet - Pluto |
| Television - enhanced . not 1 on 1 like web browsing | Ctr of home
 entertainment : Refrigerator door central display device . info - kids art .
 elememtary event driven garbage coln of dead info . stak on others windowd
 - Aud - yea but refrig doesnt crash | plasma flat screen on wall - Gaugin
 replaced by Barney @ flik of switch | But put on refrig - attach to internet
 - do remote updates
 No Keynote speach would be complete w/o mention of subject .
 Got involved in 66 `67 when roger moore got involved w Ken & Adin | got into
 enhancement pissing contest w STSC . Jim Brown & APL 2 made spoon & fork to
 make meal of it . Going back to original is very difficult . Thought
 enhancements obviated need for original smaller product .
 Humans slow to adapt to new tek | We have had email for 25 yrs | Parents
 didnt have foen til late in life - straighted hair befor answering .
 email still used by .05 of people | how sell APL when enhance so often that
 if look @ 3 wks late  | is right for  cutting edge tek ? |9:55|
 Jim Brown : not added spoon & fork - took blade for paper & butter and
 sharpend to cut cord & twine . Ian : & Sequoia trees .
 Were ~ sufficiently aware can create tek faster than people can absorb .
 Aud : ~ Education but seduction | AlanGraham : 1.5M lines of code in MS Word
 Bill seems to be wining w - o we can add that -- breaks multiple times ö wk .
 JimLucas : lot of people running 3.X - not JB but KI
|14:10| - \/ - \/ - \/ - \/ - \/ - \/ - \/ - \/ - \/ - \/ - \/ - \/ - \/ -
 MortonKromberg : OpenDataBaseConnectivity . to SQL DBs . A;\\
 SELECT cust , prod , quant
 FROM
 wehrer destination = 'uk '
 ORDER
 ODBC - Ingresss interface,.
 > 100 ODP xoftware to choose | FisCal multidim spreadsheed

  ============================: TUE.AUG,970819 :============================
|9:1| Attenance > 260 | for sale : CD , T Shirts , IPSharp Video ,
 P14 Wed 15:15 rm 201 PhilBenkard / Sesion lengths P 45 - T 1.5hr
 Dyadic tmro |
 EdShaw - MCI contract - ATT contract .
|9:11| EricBaelen    SS&C Chalke  Actuarial PC software
 PTS 2000 JohnHeinmiller : ProfitTestSyst
 Security Software Consulting . Bloomfield CT  SSNC $35M rev agr .3
 ComledAssetMngtReportng&Acnting . Pricing actuaries -
 AssetLiabilityMngt .   Bal sheet wind tunnel testing .
 Idea : ( w Shane since `84 ) modeling w acnting on it .
  1st goal  make something mktable : Pricing syst .
  Analytical software on | PTS - Profitable since 3rd Month . 2 month
  development investment - tribute to APL |
 1st release $10k 27yr olds | over time - AvgSellPrice 100k by 89 , now >
 200k for international corp modeling system .
 PTS set Standards  - resume`s listing PTS experience .
  can simplify back office . enterprize wide backbone
 > $50M lifetime revs . > 140 US Ins Cos .  Open APL code . users can
  add & mng own code .
 Interface : Vermont Views . Integrate specialty calculations form other
  languaes when necessary .  Eric showd SoftMed Chartview
  9 mo later in spring `96 bak in APL under windows .
  Support 4 Op Sys : DOS & WIN 3x 95 NT .
 elaborate stocastic process . paralel processing model .
 Pricing tool for intest sensitive prods . Now modeling equity mkts .
 Keeps getting bigger & bigger . Front panel to organize :
  Liabilities , assets , models - cash flow testing , Cap Mkts , projects -
  Option adjusted valuation of surplus , Multiple jobs .
 Building a model : Bringing actuaries , acountant , portfolio mngrs speaking
 same language | very simple model update - instantly does several people day
 job |
 Canadian Enterprise computing . Integration w CAMRA & Finesse & other systs
  Ntex CMOs , AndyDavidson - in C DLLs .
 Need to establish good working relationship between Client & Consultant .
  -- Dont overspecify design / use 80 hr rule / Insure consultants fave
  necessary knowledge / neet team , not individual for windows project .
 Dont overwork your APL resource . - graphics ChartFX - help files - ForHelp
  , Packaging - release notes - OuterBox Experience . Install Scripts .
  Install Shield . Sales & Mkting support to close next deal - less expensive
  people .
 Lessons : Constantly Communicate : Whats working , what needs to change
  104 Cos paid . |9:58|  APL is #1 language for actuaries .48 of actuaries
  know .
 OS-2 ?  decreasing to 0 use vs Win32 .
 4 mo conversion to Win APL+3 added functionality . Staff of 8 APLers
 internally working 60 hrs ö wk , + 2 frm APL2000 .
 Bloomberg uses AndyDavidson pre-payment model .
 Camra |10:7|
|11:28| NIAL : # ... Blank line | SoftQuad HTML editor |
|12:26| c> McVeigh`s Jimmy 124 Church 364-9698  | m w Donna . try 15:30
|14:7| Dyadic OLE : O of mag more complex than TCP/IP | 1st WS explorr .
 Properties list of objects . OLE server ids globally unique |
 Doc in MS Help files . OLEview browser frm MS website .
  'DAO' •WC 'OLEClient' 'DAO.DBEngine.35'  | created obj in WS .
  Method <--> Fn  | Property <--> Variable ( may be obj )
  2 •NQ 'DAO' 'ShowHelp'  | shows MS help
     )CS DAO   | Change domain to DAO NmSpc
   Assumption that ref to obj is ptr to array | takes while to browse MS help
 to understand objs | All this specific to MS Access . Quicker but not as
 general as ODBC interface . | info found thru OLEView browsing .
   | this is easier & more reliable than   DDE .
|15:40| c> McVeigh`s 364-9698 c>  PaulMcVeigh chef - sort of remembers me
 frm `93 ! w work it out . ShepardsPie , Salmon on Irish bread , Guines stew.
 run tab .
|16:12| APL+Win EricLescasse •WI OO Programming . Real traditional Object
 like .  built Qwi on •WI . with :case stmnts . Inheritence thru direct call
 of previous form .  Delphi poster of heierarcy of classes .
 ? Problem ? : all defs in 1 big > 50 line fn w case stmnts . Qwi
 Class is 1 fn ( + parent classes ) - may get very big . but easily xportable
  'ff' Qwi 'New' 'Form8 '  | msg sending creates instance  ff  of class Form8
  ' super ' to reach previous class value .
  :caselist '
19-1930| Boat Foot of yonge
 +/ 1 1  1 1 1 1 1 1 |>| 8
  ============================: WED.AUG,970820 :============================
|8:1| |8:43| |9:3| TimoLaurmaa - Mil servc in Finland learn to shout
 - tital Web Browser as  the  apl interface
  Undocumented - the presentation true . timo.laurma@bis.org
 webmaster for  www.bis.org/  |
 Why do TCP/IP socket programming ? move data frm mainframe unix Wkstns .
 Tek has chngd prep of WorkShops . Cruse cut into prep time .
 AVOID building Web Server yourself - security & encription best left to MS
 Thanks to RichardProcter , AndreiKondrashev for inventing event driven socket
 programming | http://209.19.63.3
 Color line frm Jim - 3 ruble | Dont built APL based Browser . is rediculous
 GETHOSTID to get IP from URL .
 #nnn for APL chars |10:42|
|11:12| c> 364-9698 Jimmy Sr  Paul . Shep pie , Salmon , got VISA # |11:21|
|13:37| `98 Italy , `99 Scranton PA | new tek things ~ quite ready .
 NAMESPACES : > 3 yrs ago | WS mngt . can run independently . basis of OLE
 automation . GUI objects treated as Namespaces . Integral Grid obj .
 Call Excel < - > Dyalog | Client/Server Computing .
  Control structures & dynamic Fns - good performance .
  Dialog APL/M for unix | Runs APL/W wss & GUI |
  Support svcs Web based
  Unix X-term demo . |13:50|
|13:50| John : DyadicSupportService subscription on web . Firewall to source
 file . like a time sharing svc used to be . costs them 2x QA internally ,
 but immediate WW fixes . | For loops  | For ( ( a b ) in ) ... |
 Unix & PC versons Common source . Base version . Patchs relative to that .
|14:1| Adrian : Designer | ctof | form editor w local vars . Variable
 tracking of any changes |     |1:4|

 

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