Subject: [The Secular Outpost] New comment on Are Climate-Change Deniers as bad as Creationists?....
From: Dianelos Georgoudis
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 14:04:52 -0700 (PDT)
To: bob@cosy.com

Dianelos Georgoudis has left a new comment on the post "Are Climate-Change Deniers as bad as Creationists?...":

Bob Armstrong said: “ At this point , I don't know . There are 10s of thousands who don't and it has cost some of them jobs .

I don’t know where you get your figures, but it is pretty well established that the consensus of the scientific community in general and of climatologists in particular is for AGW. Indeed a recent study puts a figure on this consensus: 82% of Earth scientists and 97% of active climatologists agree with AGW (see: http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/01/19/eco.globalwarmingsurvey/ )

Bob Armstrong said: “But I'd ask , do you notice us realist tend to post facts and concepts while the AGW believers tend to cite authority and seek confirmation that the authority still dominates ?

My scientific knowledge is based mostly on the trust I have for scientists. After all there are very few scientific experiments I have performed myself. Trust is a good thing as long as one has good reason for it. And there is certainly good reason to trust the scientific community in matters scientific.

Incidentally, what’s the deal with AGW deniers calling themselves “realists”? Is this kind of suggestive self-naming becoming a fashionable trend? I notice some atheists have taken to calling themselves “brights”. And “AGW believers” of course nicely rhymes with “God believers”. Surely such antics do not suggest one’s confidence in one’s position.

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Posted by Dianelos Georgoudis to The Secular Outpost at 2:04 PM