Subject: [The Secular Outpost] New comment on Are Climate-Change Deniers as bad as Creationists?....
From: Bob Armstrong
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 17:58:34 -0700 (PDT)
To: bob@cosy.com

Bob Armstrong has left a new comment on the post "Are Climate-Change Deniers as bad as Creationists?...":

These "who believes what" numbers don't mean much , but there are over 30,000 who have signed the "Oregon" petition which you can google for . the http://Heartland.org conferences get overbooked . Sen Inhofe has a list of over 700 highly credentialed scientists who have joined some list of his Senate Minority whatever committee . The numbers are growing rapidly as more people see what a dangerous fraud this is . Any
contention that there are not some of the world's most eminent
scientists on the "denier" side is simply a lie .  There is an excellent book by a Canadian ,  Lawrence Solomon , titled The Deniers , with biographies of a number of them .

I'm actually answering this because I thought your comment on the use of the tags realist , denier , alarmist , bright , etc.  insightful . Denier has been claimed to be intended to invoke associations with holocaust denier . Realist is definitely a reaction to that . But I would also defend it as being reasonable because we contend , contrary to the alarmists , that , as John Coleman , founder of The Weather Channel among other accomplishments would say , nothing unusual is going on . It's those who contend that the tiny change in our atmosphere's spectrum in the last half century has caused the perhaps 0.3% increase in our measured mean temperature between ~ 1970 and 2000 who are claiming something exceptional is going on . When they start talking about "runaway" temperatures they really get into fantasy land and I'm waiting for Taner Edis to tell me where I've got the classical physics , which says we are stuck with being about 1/21 the temperature of the sun , wrong .

Thanks for your question .

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Posted by Bob Armstrong to The Secular Outpost at 5:58 PM