Subject: Re: [drugwar] (OT!!) climate change will destroy us
Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 22:37:41 -0500
To:        <drugwar@mindvox.com>
From:     Bob Armstrong <bob@cosy.com>

 My computations will go to a senior academic solar scientist I=
 know , who I
 also know agrees with me , for comments , etc , before going=
 anywhere else .

 http://www.geocraft.com/WVFossils/global_warming.html starts off=
 as follows :

>=A0Earth's climate is changing. The result so far:
>
>=A0Global temperatures have risen 5=B0=A0C
>
>=A0Glaciers have melted and retreated dramatically
>
>=A0Ecosystems around the world are being altered
>
>=A0This is not new news. These changes started 18,000 thousand=
 years ago, as the earth emerged from the Pleistocene Ice Age-- a=
 time when ice-covered
>=A0mammoths and mastodons roamed the earth.

 The issue is that the earth's temperature is correlated with the=
 solar activity
 and not with man's exhalation .

On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 22:01:22 -0500, Elmer Elevator wrote:
>=A0Using a 1950s baseline from aerial surveys of Alaska glaciers,=
 a University
>=A0of Alaska @ Fairbanks researcher just measured the ice volume=
 of the same
>=A0glaciers again. The comparison indicates a dramatically rapid=
 shrinking of
>=A0glaciers and is not comforting.
>
>=A0-----Original Message-----
>=A0From: Preston Peet <ptpeet@nyc.rr.com>
>=A0To: drugwar@mindvox.com <drugwar@mindvox.com>
>=A0Date: Wednesday, February 25, 2004 9:40 PM
>=A0Subject: Re: [drugwar] (OT!!) climate change will destroy us
>
>=A0>>You've lived long enough to see that since the `60s the=
 environment has
>=A0>become=A0much cleaner . 
>=A0>
>=A0>I have? Seems to me it's gotten slightly better some places, a=
 hell of a
>=A0lot worse elsewhere.

 Where is it worse ?

>=A0>=A0=A0And it's not just the heat we're producing Bob, it's the=
 pollution of
>=A0>the air, water, and ground too.
>=A0>=A0=A0And the destruction of the trees we need to breath.

 Modern agriculture is using land so efficiently that the=
 forested area of
 the US is increasing .

 Forcing monk like asceticism in the name of eco fears can KILL=
 people now .
 Poverty , generally caused by political classes , creates=
 ecological
 disasters . eg : the 2 halves of Hispaniola . Or for that matter=
 the USSR .

--=A0
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