Subject: Re: [drugwar] Death by herbicide Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2003 17:11:19 -0400 To: From: Bob Armstrong On Mon, 18 Aug 2003 16:26:51 -0400, Preston Peet wrote: >=A0>But , to focus on the dealer rather than the customer is the= same moral >=A0failure as in the drug war . The overwhelming culpability for= any >=A0bad behavior is with the customer/user not the supplier who may= have >=A0many other customers who act just fine . < > >=A0While I see your point here Bob, I'm not sure I entirely agree,= in that yes, >=A0the customer is ultimately the responsible party, but, I know= for example >=A0that at the moment bartenders are being held liable for= continuing to serve >=A0people who are blatantly drunk and then go out and drive and= crash (unless >=A0there've been recent developments or constiutional challenges= that I don't >=A0know about). One of my old Culver classmates , now deceased , did a lot of= work defending "dram shop" cases in Wisconsin . There certainly may be some= residual culpability which , of course , juries are suppose to weigh= based on the specifics of the case . >=A0=A0=A0So I imagine that could be something along similar lines set= up for drug >=A0sales too, but how or along what lines, or even what the basis= for said regs >=A0would be is not coming to mind at the moment. These are the things that are supposed to evolve thru experience= as common law . Certainly nowdays liability often gets spread to= extreme limits to find deep pockets . >=A0>As an aside , it can be terribly difficult to say no to the= government .< > >=A0When it comes to the corporations and other parties who are= selling their >=A0services to the government to be used to wage the WOSDU, I= think the primary >=A0motive is greed, not fear of the government, though I suppose= the government >=A0could make life difficult for parties who say no to selling= their services >=A0to the feds. Who doesn't work for "greed" ? Corporations are hundreds or= thousands of families trying to make the best living they can by selling= something to somebody . It's likely most involved in supplying the= Government's war wares viscerally believe in the Cause themselves . Just like those in= the Manhattan project . But still , the government is unique in its ability to= intimidate . Peace thru freedom , Bob A