Subject: Re: [LPNY DISCUSS] Re: Goldwater Date: Tue, 20 May 2003 22:48:20 -0400 To: From: Bob Armstrong On Tue, 20 May 2003 15:49:40 -0400, Gary Popkin wrote: >=A0Goldwater's influence on American political thought survived= his candidacy. >=A0Dukakis and Gore had no political thought that I could discern,= or any >=A0thought for that matter. Goldwater was a libertarian altho the term was not in common usage . When he died I remember FOX commentators being mystified by how this paragon of "Conservatism" could believe in gay rights and be against the drug war . Their knowledge was so shallow that they thought he had changed in his old age rather than that the Republican party had . >From his `64 nomination speech : http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/daily/may98/goldwa= terspeech.htm We see, in private property and in economy based upon and= fostering private property, the one way to make government a= durable ally of the whole man, rather than his determined enemy.= We see in the sanctity of private property the only durable= foundation for constitutional government in a free society. And= beyond that, we see, in cherished diversity of ways, diversity= of thoughts, of motives and accomplishments. We do not seek to= lead anyone's life for him - we seek only to secure his rights= and to guarantee him opportunity to strive, with government= performing only those needed and constitutionally sanctioned= tasks which cannot otherwise be performed. .... I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no= vice. And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit= of justice is no virtue. --- I don't understand why Greg continues to hang around this group= . I have a brain damaged brother and have come to accept no= forward progress from one year to the next . He will never be able to= add two 2 digit numbers and get the same answer consistently . Greg seems incapable of understanding that collective force= simply cannot be more charitable much less as intelligent as= individuals solving their mutual difficulties of existence thru cooperative= / competitive individual decision making . He parrots the false "chicken in every pot" "rights" foisted by FDR and repeated in= the UN charter to physical necessities which no-one can assure and= the suppression of the application of individual intelligence and action to tens of thousands of pages of regulations backed by= guns and gulags has so conclusively failed to provide . -- =A0Bob Armstrong -- http://CoSy.com -- 212-285-1864 NEW : Newsletter : http://cosy.com/K/CoSy/NL200305.htm Ultimate Computing Environment : =A0http://cosy.com/K/CoSy.htm A WTC vision : http://cosy.com/CoSy/ConicAllConnect/ =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A02003/05/20 10:13:17 PM