Subject: Re: [LPNY DISCUSS] Secession? "Nuts to Albany" Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2003 20:54:37 -0400 To: From: Bob Armstrong On Wed, 16 Apr 2003 14:00:38 -0400, Gary Snyder wrote: >=A0If I marched down to Bellvue right now and murdered you, would= it >=A0merely be one's opinion that the act was wrong? Were the pieces of Iraqis blown apart by Bush's bombs murdered= , or just unfortunate collateral damage justified by our= benevolent liberation ? Murder is wrong because only those deaths which are judged to= be wrongful receive that label . It is Darwin's tautology that "that which exists is that which continues to exist" which make murder ( wrongful killing of one member of a social group by another member of the group ) a rather universally accepted "wrong" . Societies with no such prohibition don't survive . While the theoretic and historic argument and evidence of the greater survival value of individual liberty is very strong , the alternative theories based on third party force in the name of some collective intelligence are clearly still far from extinct . -- =A0Bob Armstrong -- http://CoSy.com -- 212-285-1864 Ultimate Computing Environment : =A0http://cosy.com/K/CoSy.htm A WTC vision : http://cosy.com/CoSy/ConicAllConnect/ =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A02003/04/18 8:24:29 PM