Subject: Re: [nycjunto-discuss] Why Arabs love Israel Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2003 22:52:06 -0400 To: Jeffrey Stark From: Bob Armstrong I'm sorry I have been occupied with slave work for the IRS plus= a bit of time to do an hour on an MNN cable call in show with an Asian guy generally about US and UN . On Sat, 12 Apr 2003 13:28:37 -0400, Jeffrey Stark wrote: >=A0Bob, > >=A0Lets be serious, a stronger army or weaker army doesn't make it= more or >=A0less moral. Lets judge each side based upon their strategies= and tactics. >=A0Trying to say one side is wrong simply becuase they are more= powerful is >=A0simply a childish arguement. =A0Once side calls for the= destruction of the >=A0other and routinely slaughters civilians. Of course disparity in armament simply causes a difference in= the methods employed . One side uses missiles , tanks , body armor and= bulldozers bought with US taken ( tax ) money , and the other side gets= together a few bucks for a bunch of dynamite and straps it to their bodies= . It seems to me the extremists both sides call for the= destruction of the other and slaughter civilians , and it is clear that by a factor= of 2 or 3 the zionists are more successful in body count , and far and= away in the destruction of property . > In retaliation, Israel, by far=A0=09the most moral country on the= planet, What ! What in hell , and I do mean Hell , is your criterion ?= > might go as far as wrecking the house=A0of the perpertrator as= post > partum punishment, in hopes that the suicidal=A0maniacs in the= future > might be discouraged somewhat if they know their=A0houses will= be > destroyed. To compare blowing up a bus of 20+ people=A0routinely= to > the desctruction of property is an insance parallel. The Sharon government has continued to murder several of their fellow Palestinians every week even when no suicide attacks= were occurring . >=A0Secondly the Israelis are the most compassionate and civilized= army the >=A0world has ever seen. There is such extraordinary care not to= harm a >=A0civilian, such conentrated efforts to legitimately target only= those who >=A0are terrorists. I have seen videos of Israeli soldiers rifle butting helpless= men on hillsides . I have read accounts by Jewish peace activists . >=A0Where do you obtain your news? Most importantly , CSPAN . But my clicker goes from news station= to news station , and I work at home . > Can you believe even 1% of=A0what comes from the pro-arab= sources? Of course I can . And I can see the tape . > Did you see the Iraqi information >=A0ministry last week saying that there were no troops in Bagdad? What does this have to do with the religious war in Palestine ? > Do they have >=A0a shred of credibility in their unfree press? Would a rational= adult >=A0believe even the weather forecast of an arab country? Islamic= coulture, >=A0unlike Judeo christian culture places very little or no value= on truth >=A0seeking and intellectual inquiry. Please judge your news= sources accordingly. What racist elitist theocentric crap . You argue FOR ad hominem= judgment . >=A0The arabs in the terrorties are their precisly becuase the= sorounding Arab >=A0countries want them there and have mostly been =A0expelled them= from their >=A0countries or not permitted to enter them. "or not permitted to enter them." Why in hell can't they just= live as free people in homes and towns they were born in ? > Israel has made extrordinary=A0concessions, unlike how the USA= made any > concession to give back land to=A0Mexico after we won a war= against them, > to give the savages land for some=A0sort of peace. They've been= rejected > every step of the way. So you are justifying the actions of "the most moral country on= the planet" on the basis of the US taking land from Mexico a hundred years= ago . Is your point that that was an epitome of moral behavior ? I think= the parallels are much stronger with the Indian wars . Or , in my= ethnic history , the Clearances of Scotland by the English around 1800= . So far as I know , the US made no concerted effort to evict the= indigenous population from the acquired territory . The purpose of the= Clearances and the Indian wars was to clear the land of the population . In= the case of the Indian , they were corralled in refugee camps= called reservations . That seems identical in intent and result to the= actions of the zionists . >=A0I can only conclude that a person who doesn't see the truth= either A. >=A0doesn't want to see the truth or B. has a thing for Jews or C.= Refuses to >=A0take a moral and rational survey of the situation and strictly= reacts with >=A0emotion fomented by the pathetic arabists press worldwide. As I said in a note 04/10 : To me , there is only one question . Do you believe that our First Amendment is a wise philosophy= for a peace and prosperity fostering political structure , or not= . Or do you believe that it's right here on North America , but that there are places and people ... who have a special right to some region to the exclusion of others ? Clearly Israel's path has created one of the most desolate dangerous places on earth . >=A0Jeffrey Stark >=A0Sensor Products Inc. USA >=A0TEL: 973-428-2976 >=A0www.sensorprod.com >=A0jstark@sensorprod.com Very interesting looking business . -- =A0Bob Armstrong -- http://CoSy.com -- 212-285-1864 Ultimate Computing Environment : =A0http://cosy.com/K/CoSy.htm A WTC vision : http://cosy.com/CoSy/ConicAllConnect/ =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A02003/04/26 4:30:34 PM